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Author:  sirshambling [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:  The Greenville MS connection?

One of the major users of Cos' studio in the mid 60s was Henry or Reginald Hines who ran a stable of labels from a Greenville, MS base. Some of the 45s have matrix numbers that could well be part of the Cos Code like

Vicki Williams "Your In The Army" Big Beat 133 1287
and Maxine Thomas "Your Promises" Bo-Bo 133 1147

but others like

Frank Tenella's "You Came Alomg" Odex 133 - OR - 1067

look like they ought to be but don't seem quite right.

Can anybody help with an explanation of all this?

Author:  Kris Holmes [ Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Greenville MS connection?

who really knows with Hines, the Tenella 45 could be an outside production with nothing to do with Cosimo, its kind of a mystery 45 that one. i agree the number should fit but 1067 seems to place it too early.

Author:  sirshambling [ Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Greenville MS connection?

Hi Kris, Yes it all does come down to Mr Hines "erratic" way of doing business. I agree with the date of the Tenella being problematic but the numbers really do look as though they belong here.

I'm hoping to get all my Greenville 45s together and see what's what - but it will have to wait a little while sadly.

Author:  peterh [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Greenville MS connection?

Hi John,
I doubt if there's a connection with the Cosimo codes for most numbers in the series.
For instance, the Little Eddie 45 below (Big Beat 133-1267) would indicate that it's from 1965 if this is a code from the list. However, the label also contains the number 7434, which indicates I think that it's a Southern Plastic pressing. If that's true then it's a 1969 release according to
http://www.45rpmrecords.com/press/SO.ph ... talRows=92

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Author:  Kris Holmes [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Greenville MS connection?

yeah, those later ones like the Little Eddie & the Vicki Williams don't fit & I think he (Hines/Williams) had stopped working in New Orleans by that stage. Earlier ones from when Hines/Williams was definitely working in NO, like the Maxine Thomas mentioned above definitely belong here though.

Author:  ana-b [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Greenville MS connection?

Another of these is BB-133-1297.

Looks like the code is correct, but at the same time it's far too early for the recording.

It's also worth noting that there are several odd "133" type codes used on Senator Jones related labels.

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Author:  peterh [ Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:10 am ]
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ana-b wrote:
It's also worth noting that there are several odd "133" type codes used on Senator Jones related labels.


I wondered about those as well. Several Hep'Me related releases have a 133 or 266 prefix followed by a code which often seem to denote an early 70s date (mm-dd-yy, e.g. 133-12-14-70-2).

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